Segway Ninebot Max Hands-on Report of Features

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  • Published: 03 July 2019
  • Since our last video didn't do justice to many of the features of the Segway Ninebot Max, we've made this video to shed light on many important features of this upcoming scooter.

    This video covers: Acceleration, Braking, Stability, Portability, and Build Quality. We also uncovered some nuances regarding starting/stopping on hills that might be a deal-killer for smaller riders.

    Overall, this is a very well-built scooter that should hold up to the test of time. However, one size does not fit all in the scooter market, so please do your research - especially if you value portability or if you are a person of smaller stature and you have a commute with steep hills.

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Comments • 51

  • makeabody
    makeabody  6 days back

    My ninebot broke in 32days. They have been fixing it for the whole summer yhanks ninebot!

  • Edwin S Anthony
    Edwin S Anthony  1 months back

    Your reviews are really good, BUT, you should try smooth transitions whenever you do any cuts in the flow of the video. Jerky scene changes are just annoying and, well, basically unprofessional and juvenile. Just that change should make yours a real professional production in all aspects. Thanks for the very comprehensive video mate.

  • EpicBrewmas
    EpicBrewmas  1 months back

    The personal version is what is being shipped through the Indiegogo correct? You mentioned minor differences, are these all cosmetic? Lastly, the weight limit is 220LBs, with your extensive experience with other models - what is the negative effects of exceeding the limit? (260lbs)

    Thanks in advance for the answers :)

    • EpicBrewmas
      EpicBrewmas  1 months back

      Also - thoughts on the Nanrobot D5+?

  • Marek Sz
    Marek Sz  1 months back

    Please compare MAX to proper scooter like M365 PRO. Comparing new one to 2 year old M365 doesn't make any sense

    • Marek Sz
      Marek Sz  1 months back

      @Electric Scooter Guide True. MAX is also not available yet :) I own M365 PRO and I know how different it is comparing to M365. Plus every easily available and cheep modification, like 10" wheels, makes this comparison even more interesting but in the same time much more harder. Good luck and good work. Keep doing this :)

    • Electric Scooter Guide
      Electric Scooter Guide   1 months back

      The reason I compare to the M365 is that everyone knows that model as it is the best selling electric scooter in the world, by far - which makes it a good benchmark. Also the Pro is not available in many countries.

  • Ernesto Ramos
    Ernesto Ramos  1 months back

    Did you get the prototype or the final product????

    • Ernesto Ramos
      Ernesto Ramos  1 months back

      @Electric Scooter Guide Ok cool...I like ur in-depth review still looking forward to my max... delivery starts July 20th!!!
      Keep up the good work ur doing.. ur doing a great public service 👍

    • Electric Scooter Guide
      Electric Scooter Guide   1 months back

      It is the final product, however, there are some minor differences between the shared version and the personal version.

  • XxKazxX xoxo
    XxKazxX xoxo  1 months back

    Im considering buying a great scooter but this one seems like its too much hassle... i want speeds of 20mph and atleast 20miles or more for range and under $1200 because these shouldnt be too expensive

    • Electric Scooter Guide
      Electric Scooter Guide   1 months back

      Did you already punch in your criteria into our comparison chart? We built is specifically for those that know what their criteria are. https://electric-scooter.guide/comparisons/compare-electric-scooters/. Scooter I like with those criteria are: Zero 9 / TurboWheel Dart, WideWheel (dual motor), and if you can spend $59 more, the Emove Cruiser. Both the Zero and Emove cruisers we have at 10% off coupon code on our deals page as well. Good luck!

  • WT COLLECTOR
    WT COLLECTOR  2 months back

    Insert my Mercane Widewheel dual motor for 1,000. Game over. That Max scooter couldn't go up California street. It won't go up most hills in San Francisco that are considered real hills. It's a crappy over priced low end budget scooter.

    • Jeremy Fischer
      Jeremy Fischer  1 months back

      So a scooter that costs $1,100 is twice as good as a scooter that costs $599? NO WAY!!! /sarcasm

  • Alexa J
    Alexa J  2 months back

    Informative, but dude, please look at the lens, not yourself and please show the scooter full frame and not in a window. I’d prefer shots of the scooter over a continuous shot of you

  • Daud Hicks
    Daud Hicks  2 months back

    Im gonna go with Inokim or zero, ninebot doesn't have suspension, or power compared to an zero 8x or Inokim oxo.

    • Electric Scooter Guide
      Electric Scooter Guide   1 months back

      Both of those brands are of high quality. And for power, suspension, and portability Zero and Inokim will be great. I don't quite like the non-pneumatic tires on the 8X, but if you aren't riding in slippery conditions you should be fine.

    • Jay Robinson
      Jay Robinson  1 months back

      I cant seem to find anything better than the Zero scooters

  • Mateo Tavera
    Mateo Tavera  2 months back

    What do you think of the breaks while going downhill and having a drum break in the front instead of the back for downhills? I live in a city with similar hills to San Francisco and I am having second thoughts because of the breaks and going downhill. Thanks.

    • Mateo Tavera
      Mateo Tavera  1 months back

      Thank you!!!

    • Electric Scooter Guide
      Electric Scooter Guide   2 months back

      I was skeptical at first, but after riding the scooter down the hills in SF, and hitting the brakes as hard as possible, I feel they are quite good. The brakes will lock up on flat ground, but not lock up on hills.

  • Louis Y
    Louis Y  2 months back

    should be compared to Xiaomi 365 PRO

    • Electric Scooter Guide
      Electric Scooter Guide   2 months back

      I agree. The Pro is probably the closest scooter to this one. The main differences are that the Max increases the tire size to 10", increases battery watt hours to 551 (from 474), increases motor power from 300 to 350, and replaces the disc with a drum brake and moves it to the front wheel. Overall, the scooter is just larger and ride is quite comfortable.

  • Truls Horn
    Truls Horn  2 months back

    How is this uphill compared to the ES2 with extra battery (ES4) ? :)

    • Electric Scooter Guide
      Electric Scooter Guide   2 months back

      we have not tested the ES4, only the ES2. Given the motor wattage of the ES4 (300) vs the Max (350) and the slightly heavier weight of the Max, I would expect it to have similar hill climbing abilities. After we are done testing the ES2, we'll throw the extra battery on it. Overall, I'm ready to get rid of our ES2, as I don't like the ride. The Max is much better overall IMO.

  • Hirogochi Tomayto
    Hirogochi Tomayto  2 months back

    How wide is the footpad compared to the M365/Pro?

    • Hirogochi Tomayto
      Hirogochi Tomayto  1 months back

      @Electric Scooter Guide Thanks for the reply and please make more videos with the Ninebot Max, I'm sure many people would love to see it in action

    • Electric Scooter Guide
      Electric Scooter Guide   2 months back

      The Max is all-around larger and has a larger platform than either of those two scooters.

  • Robert Fontanosa
    Robert Fontanosa  2 months back

    It is great to see another scooter enthusiast! I think we may also live near each other as the last part of your video is all around SOMA and specifically around the 5th street area. You give a very thorough breakdown which is very much appreciated. I have been commuting with scooters from San Francisco SOMA to Fremont for over 4 years. I am one of the few that does 16+ miles per day bridging the gap from SOMA to Embarcadero BART then from Union City BART to my Fremont office. I have owned many scooters and have put at least 8,000 miles between them all. I have also used my Onewheel XR to commute but prefer the greater speed and comfort of scooters for commuting.


    I have owned many scooters:
    - Currently own and is my daily driver - Ecoreco L5+
    - I have two E-Twow Booster scooters
    - Owned and sold the Ecoreco M3 scooter
    - Owned and sold the Ecoreco M5 scooter
    - Currently own a Speedway Mini-IV 48v/500w scooter from Singapore
    - Currently own an iFreego 48v/500w scooter from China


    I have also owned a couple e-bikes but don't recall the brands and don't like using them for my commute. They were sold years ago.


    For anyone considering a scooter for commuting they should seriously look into the Ecoreco L5+. With my scooter fleet I have tried most non-hyper scooter features. I consider a hyper scooter to be something that does 30MPH-50MPH+ and weighs more than 50lbs. The Ecoreco L5+ has the following going for it:


    - Performance to weight is very good. It is 46lbs but can carry serious weight, has very good range, and very good sustained speed on flat at 25MPH. It can easily keep up or stay ahead of the fastest vehicles in the bike lane without being dangerously faster.
    - Drum brakes are perfect for all conditions I have encountered including rain. I have a scooter with a disc brake and it doesn't stop any better than my drum brake L5+. Disc brakes get horrible when the disc gets wet in the rain. I think drum brakes work very well when they don't deal with too much weight and heat build-up.
    - Solid tires are a MUST for any serious range. The Speedway and iFreego have pneumatic tires and each has had a flat. I was able to replace the flats but it is much harder than replacing a flat on a bike. You just don't want to deal with flats when you are commuting. The new honeycombed solid tires that are coming out for scooter and some AT electric longboards are perfect. Not quite a comfortable as air tires but still cushy enough to be comfortable.
    - Dual suspension off-sets the solid tires harshness. This scooter rides as well as any of my air tire scooters. It can also take most of the road obstacles that exist except for perhaps the biggest potholes but you should be able to bunny-hop or avoid those anyway.
    - Bay Area support in Campbell. I had to get my battery replaced as it was not holding maximum charge. They were going to mail me a new one but I just drove over to their HQ and picked up a new one and tested there. I was able to see the tear down and replacement first hand and it is something very easy to do.
    - It has a great folding mechanism which includes the handlebars. It can even fit in my gym locker which only my E-Twow scooters were able to do. I agree completely with you regarding the folded dimensions to be something critical.
    - Built very well. I have over 1000 miles on my L5+ and it is in great shape. I used loctite on all the metal to metal screw contacts and it is going strong. I liked my original M3 and M5 Ecoreco scooters build quality so I had a good feeling the L5+ would be built well and it is. You need to put distance on a scooter to really tell if it will hold up.


    The Boosted Rev is a cool scooter but fails in the portable fold category. It also has air tires which is something you don't want to deal with. If you put any serious miles on your scooter you will get a flat with pneumatic scooters. I know Ecoreco has been kinda fading these days unlike when they first hit the market. However, the L5+ is something that should be considered if you want to have the best commuting experience on a scooter.

    • Robert Fontanosa
      Robert Fontanosa  2 months back

      @Funky Chicken Unfortunately there is no application support for any of the scooters I mentioned including my daily driver (Ecoreco L5+). The scooters only have manual power on and power off capabilities. Since we aren't allowed to carry a pistol (sadly) I always have my EDC Karambit ready to go if needed. I have only gotten into one fight in all my time in SOMA but I guess that is one too many. Good luck and stay safe!

    • Funky Chicken
      Funky Chicken  2 months back

      I’m curious as far as security for these scooters. I work near union square and the last thing I want is for some homeless guy to run out and jack my scooter at a red light on Market St. is there a way to lock the scooter down with the app? Or does it just turn “on” and off you go? Passing by Civic Center 4am in the morning is super sketchy.

    • Robert Fontanosa
      Robert Fontanosa  2 months back

      @theevilbillgates The E-Twow Boosters have thousands of miles on them and they have been very reliable. I love their portability but switched out to a bigger and faster scooter as covering 16 miles each day is better on the Ecoreco L5+.

    • theevilbillgates
      theevilbillgates  2 months back

      How do you like the two E-Twow Booster scooters? I have the Eco and was thinking of upgrading to the Booster V. Still foldable and very light. Lower top speed and not as much distance, but I'm a short distance rider anyway. What are your thoughts on them? I like the suspension.

  • xorbe2
    xorbe2  2 months back

    The thumb throttle on my Booster [similar thumb throttle as this Ninebot] is so much more comfy than the trigger on my Dualtron. Haven't noticed any delay on the throttle for either. The Dualtron does have delay in the e-brake though!

    • Electric Scooter Guide
      Electric Scooter Guide   2 months back

      Yes, I agree with that. I end up getting cramped with trigger throttles when performing extended range tests (riding for 1-3 hours straight). Thumb throttles are much preferred.

  • Mando Morlos
    Mando Morlos  2 months back

    I am considering this scooter or the horizon. They are priced the same. Which would you recomend?

    • Electric Scooter Guide
      Electric Scooter Guide   2 months back

      Tough question. They are quite different. There are quite a few pros/cons to each. I think both are great scooters, but if you want portability, go for the Horizon. For a highly-robust, long-range go for the Max.

  • Juan Pablo Oyarzun Arroyo

    Excelent video... let’s hope they nailed the folding mechanism... i think what is really great about the max is that is bombproof, stable and good performer... some people care for the extra size; some don’t. But for me i think it will work wonders. I sold my zero 10 for two of this maxes on igg; my use case is commuting and doing long daytrips arround town with my SO and/or my Son. Hopping from spot to spot on the weekends all day long. M365 always leave us short.
    Another good point is the longevity of the battery, my commuting roundtrip is about 6 miles on flat surface... Using this i think i can do 3 days without charging; that’s super convenient but also the battery will last ages.
    I only hope that the folding mech wont be rattly as the m365; and firmware can be moddeable as in the m365/m365pro and ninebot es line.... that are (after this excelent video) my only two unknowns for this baby.

    • Electric Scooter Guide
      Electric Scooter Guide   2 months back

      @TheChazas The Xiaomi M365, purchased from Amazon a few months ago, has been my (more often than not) daily rider and then folding mechanism has been solid. We've ran this thing over all types of terrain you shouldn't ride on and still no issues with the stem. I did have the disc brake line come loose, but was able to fix myself.
      We also did a survey earlier this year with current scooter owners and the M365 has the third best model satisfaction rating (4.5/5). Overall, people love this particular model. https://electric-scooter.guide/best-rated/what-are-the-best-electric-scooter-models/

    • TheChazas
      TheChazas  2 months back

      @Juan Pablo Oyarzun Arroyo Well I have read about it on Reddit, few people were to point it out who already tried them. It seems to be an improved version mechanism, but still not completly tight, on probably will get looser over time.

    • Juan Pablo Oyarzun Arroyo
      Juan Pablo Oyarzun Arroyo  2 months back

      Lets hope you're wrong about the fold mechanism.

    • TheChazas
      TheChazas  2 months back

      I heard that even the slightly changed folding mechanism still retains the same issue as going a bit loose, but hopefully not breaking as Xiaomi. So far I have heard it does not have support with the app to unlock speed and such, but becouse it is still not officially released, hopefully. I quite like Max on paper but still very hesitant becouse the lack of suspension and quite small motor for the price, if we talking about retail price 799 I feel I should go with the Zero 8 or 9, specially for the speed and suspension also they have options for bigger batteries.

  • Jeff J
    Jeff J  2 months back

    Do you know which cells they are using in the battery pack? I wonder if they are using 20700/21700 instead of 18650 cells? That would explain the extra weight and mileage.

    • TheChazas
      TheChazas  2 months back

      Really great points made, doing a great job. Wonder will it work fully with the app, allowing to unlock the speed making it something around +20 mph or +35 km/h. also changing torque specs for acceleration. Really interesting in what will happen next since it is made with the focus for sharing market, how will it affect availability internationally for consumers will stores really carry it as other Segway scooters and how prices will change, simply how available it will be.
      Hope to see videos for Zero or Grace 8 and 9 also Horizon Electric Scooter which are all basically the same thing, also some Inokim, would love to see how they compare and how it would compare with Max. Still cant decide which to get, since big delivery price and taxes comes into play.

      • Electric Scooter Guide
        Electric Scooter Guide   2 months back

        Thanks for the feedback. We have the new Horizon, Wolf Warrior, and Mosquito from Fluid Freerides coming in early next week. I'll get videos up as soon as I can. The Horizon will essentially be the same as the Zero 8 https://electric-scooter.guide/reviews/zero-8-review/

    • Profit Glen
      Profit Glen  2 months back

      Thanks for the info. I have a 2016 Nissan Altima. I think this will fit but I am worried.
      And to make matters worse, I ordered 2 of them. How the hell am I gonna fit 2 of them in the trunk?

      • Juan Pablo Oyarzun Arroyo
        Juan Pablo Oyarzun Arroyo  2 months back

        Normal cars have about 50” with trunks; they can be placed oriented to the wide side without any issues.

      • Electric Scooter Guide
        Electric Scooter Guide   2 months back

        I don't have the Altima, but as I remember, it is not a compact car. Just think about putting the scooter in slanted or with the long part going from towards the front of the car. Also, you may be able to put a seat down.